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Problem with Red Light Running?

Is there a Red Light Running Problem in Newark? Are Red Light Cameras for revenue or for safety?

The question of whether a rolling right-on-red violation is so dangerous that it should be enforced with a nearly $500 fine has been debated for some time. We now have the definitive answer and it is a resounding, "NO."

Let us look to one of the most highly enforced red light camera approaches in the area. Northbound Cedar at Mowry near NewPark Mall.

In a recent 3-year period there was just one accident at that approach, a minor, non-injury accident, which was not attributed to red light running. Has there ever been an accident attributed to red light running? Has there ever been an accident for a right-on-red violation? Yet massive enforcement is necessary ostensibly for safety reasons?

This one red light camera snaps photos of potential violations at the rate of 4,000 per year, a number which is not coming down but actually going up slightly. Newark Police Dept. reports that of the 4,161 potential violations captured by this camera last year, that it issued 2,195 citations and that over 99.2% are for right turning violations. Last month (Dec. 2012), of 210 citations issued, only 2 occurred from the left turn and 208 occurred from the right hand lane. None occurred in the through lane.

Over $1 million in fines annually just from this one camera (Newark has 4 cameras) to solve a non-existent problem? Seems excessive. Wouldn't the community be better served by leaving that money in the pockets of consumers to stimulate the economy? Better that than to levy this "back door tax" onto motorists in order to fund government not to mention enriching the camera vendor from Arizona.

Roger Jones

Kirsten January 17, 2013 at 06:11 pm
UGH! I hate this light! My household has paid 3 tickets for right hand turns on red at this light. Lesson learned, we all now make a full and complete stop at this intersection. I know Newark probably needs the revenue, but it wouldn't break my heart if that camera went away.
Roger January 17, 2013 at 10:26 pm
Kirsten and others: The 10% - 15% who fought a right-on-red ticket have appeared before a Traffic Court Judge who lowered the fine to $154 from $480. If that fine applied to all, the cameras would go away. And fast. Newark needs to raise $300K per year just to pay Redflex and dept. overhead. If Newark only enforced violations where there was any pedestrian or vehicular cross traffic, there would be virtually no tickets issued. Join the local protest group and let Newark city council know that you are tired of the scam.
http://www.meetup.com/Red-Light-Camera-Protest-Group-of-Southern-Alameda-County/
Roger January 17, 2013 at 10:29 pm
Want to see how ridiculous the red light enforcement has been in Newark? See the youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrddF-QaJxI
James Nelson January 17, 2013 at 11:12 pm
I recently stood in Camera Sight at this Intersection and gave not one, but two Birds to the Camera over a 15 Minute Period. Needless to say several locals will be getting Ticked in the next week or so and when they playback the Video they will see me being the Goofball that I am!
Hints: During one Violation I was posing with my Customized Hat which reads "Local Terrorist" During another I was holding up a Sign which read "Arizona SUCKS!" If you were one of the Lucky few to get Popped at that time, do Note that I am with you in your anger and I hope that my small Contribution was enough to make you Giggle during this time of Stress. YOUR WELCOME!
Dolores Van Ryn January 18, 2013 at 01:12 am
James Nelson, one word "CLASSY"
James Nelson January 18, 2013 at 04:35 am
Delores,
Thank You! The last time I got that particular Compliment was when I got Invited to the Annual White Trash Bash. I can't describe it on here as it's too Explicit for Patch Standards. Let's just say Bestiality was a Theme with my Costume. The Majority of people won't even cross that Line even while Mocking, I on the other hand am not the Majority. I Frequently cross that Line and do so proudly! I do and say what I want, when I want, and I make no Apologies. That's my one strongest Attribute is Honesty, and yes it can Sting.
Jack Turner January 18, 2013 at 01:08 pm
Can Newark put a measure on the June or November ballot to ban these cameras like they did in Murrieta? Redflex tried to spend money to stop this from occurring and lost big time. I'm sure if Newark residents had their say they would vote to ban this program overwhelmingly. A lot of California cities eliminated their programs last year.
Roger January 18, 2013 at 01:38 pm
Jack - Newark is the most vulnerable of the 5 cities in Alameda County to a public vote on the matter because it is the least populous of the cities and issues the greatest number of camera tickets per capita. I believe as few as 600 or so signatures could get the matter on the ballot. Who has time to spear head this?
Roger January 18, 2013 at 01:38 pm
Jack - Newark is the most vulnerable of the 5 cities in Alameda County to a public vote on the matter because it is the least populous of the cities and issues the greatest number of camera tickets per capita. I believe as few as 600 or so signatures could get the matter on the ballot. Who has time to spear head this?
Albert Rubio January 21, 2013 at 04:11 am
I calculated from patch figures a year ago that the cameras are costing in fines 118K per prevented incidents.
I told the board this is extremely excessive IMO. Especially when you consider that the normal deterrent and payer for such incidents is auto insurance. Bad drivers are punished and good drivers rewarded. The only standard of so called safety is if the system brings in revenues IMO. There is no standard of safety to justify 118K in costs to prevent a fender bender.
Albert Rubio January 21, 2013 at 04:15 am
Also beware, this topic attracts Fanatic Pharisees that insist we should be happy to pay whatever fine because the authorities have imposed them for our safety. They think we are immoral and destroyers of civilization for questioning traffic fee's.
Patricia January 23, 2013 at 05:11 pm
A camera on the southbound exits from 880 at Mowry, Stevenson and Auto Mall could pay for themselves and the others. Scary how many times I've been sitting at the red light going east on either of these overpasses and witnessed everything from motorcycles to big rigs flying through the red light.
Nika Megino (Editor) January 24, 2013 at 09:46 pm
I got one of these, too! But at the Jarvis Ave. and Newark Blvd. intersection. Sigh. I now count to 5 before turning right on red. One alligator. Two alligator.

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